PeakPointMatrix
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- Oct 25, 2017
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My jaw completely dropped. I already know the anime notoriously pads out the manga, but seeing it side by side is just downright comedic.
I still tune in for the anime out of habit on Crunchyroll week to week, but One Pace is probably the best way to watch if for some reason you can't read the Manga. I hope Funimation does an official Kai version one day.
Lunar Wolf
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Jesus. I want to go through the anime more than the manga but One Piece already has pacing issues.
This seems intolerable.
mrmoose
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- Nov 13, 2017
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Jesus. I want to go through the anime more than the manga but One Piece already has pacing issues.
This seems intolerable.
The only pacing issues the manga has is the physical limitations of only getting one chapter a week. Otherwise just reading it straight through I don't remember any pacing issues.
For example, Alabasta seemed like it took an eternity but when I reread it it's perfectly fine.
Squarehard
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- Oct 27, 2017
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They have recap episodes for recap episodes.
SatoAilDarko
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- Oct 25, 2017
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You know even if they started doing an fillerless edit of the anime now airing weekly they'll still most likely finish after the manga ends.
I mean such an edited version would still last around ten years.
Smash-It Stan
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- Oct 25, 2017
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This is why I didn't get why people were hyped over how pretty Wano was gonna be. Watching it is still gonna be agonizing, it's just a new coat of paint.
sir_crocodile
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Been the case since they changed the series director around ep 300. They changed again recently but the problem of being too close to the manga is still there, and they're still using the second director's solution of filler in canon eps rather than the first director's solution of filler arcs.
Jinbei using fishman karate at impel down will forever be the dirt worst
- Oct 25, 2017
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It looks really nice but pacing is everything for me. I just cannot sit through Toei's version.
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PeakPointMatrix
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Even the One Pace one seems overly long (but they couldn't cut it out without reanimating it). Like did we really need 15 seconds of both guys almost falling out of the ring?
Sometimes you do need some padding to build tension. I've seen some scenes that are actually edited to be too fast, and it kind of knocks the wind/gravity out of the scene. It's a fine balance and a good editor is worth their weight in gold for this reason.
Lunar Wolf
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They really just do more filler so I can skip those episodes rather than slow-pacing their canon episodes.
Bleach knew how to do it.
mrmoose
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Sometimes you do need some padding to build tension. I've seen some scenes that are actually edited to be too fast, and it kind of knocks the wind/gravity out of the scene. It's a fine balance and a good editor is worth their weight in gold for this reason.
That part (starts at around :31) doesn't seem like it takes too long to you?
Knight in Shining Armani
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- Oct 30, 2017
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I watch this sh*t at 1.5x speed these days (VLC player). It's unbearable otherwise.
WaveBird
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- Oct 29, 2017
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I wish I could find an old video I made back in Marineford. I edited out all the filler just like One Pace does (but I was way worse at it). It was one of those house projects I thought would be fun but trying to match up audio and the OST was just way to much work. Love that this little group exists.
For me though, I don't need One Pace until we get to Amazon Lily. Before that, I was fine with the stretching and the filler because a) some of the filler is gold like Brooke's little adventure trying to fit in after TB or b) the animation wasn't just close up shots of people's faces all the time.
Blackage
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- Oct 27, 2017
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They really just do more filler so I can skip those episodes rather than slow-pacing their canon episodes.
Bleach knew how to do it.
Bleach's filler killed the anime. There was way too much.
smurfx
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- Oct 25, 2017
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luffy vs doflamingo should let you know how much filler there is. they completely ruined the ending of it thanks to the sh*tty filler. luffy struggles punching through doflamingos attack while in the manga he completely powers through it and ends doflamingo. luffy's final attack was meant to show that his power had completely surpassed doflamingo but you wouldn't know it by the anime with how much he struggled.
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Yasuke
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- Oct 25, 2017
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Wait, what?
Where's the colorized version???
Odesu
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- Oct 26, 2017
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Say what you will about Naruto Shippuden but after all was said and done you can now very easily just skip the 40% Filler episodes and watch a pretty well paced show full of amazingly animated fights. After the first 50 episodes that is, where they used the same method OP uses, pumping the canon episodes full of filler moments. Still such a bummer they started the series that way.
Filler Arcs f*cking such when the show still airs because it keeps forcing you to just stop watching for months and months. But that way you can a) just treat it like you were watching yearly seasons with breaks in between and more importantly b) simply watch the canon show when it's all finished. The One Piece anime would just be f*cked forever without this One Pace project.
It's the first I've heard of it, btw. Is it really good? I noticed they got like...all the episodes done that way? o0
sir_crocodile
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the worst
- Oct 25, 2017
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luffy vs doflamingo should let you know how much filler there is. they completely ruined the ending of it thanks to the sh*tty filler. luffy struggles punching though doflamingos attack while in the manga he completely powers through it and ends doflamingo. luffy's final attack was meant to show that his power had completely surpassed doflamingo but you wouldn't know it by the anime with how much he struggled.
Yeah, I hated that so much. It felt like an instant KO in the manga and I feel that's how it should be.
sir_crocodile
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- Oct 25, 2017
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I wish Toei went the Studio Pierrot way like Naruto and Bleach. Have full filler arcs so you can give the canon episodes at least some decent pacing.
they did once upon a time :(
Betty
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- Oct 25, 2017
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User Banned (1 Day): Don't link to scan sites
Mod edit: don't post scan sites
I'd pay a premium to have the manga purchasable in full colour.
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- Oct 25, 2017
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Impel Down is when I had enough of the anime and switched to the manga. Oh I remember this scene well lol.
Yasuke
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My nigg*.
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mrmoose
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They did both. I'm watching with my kids and the first filler I can remember is after Loguetown and they do something with a kid and a dragon (I dunno because we skipped it). Before that, they animate some of the in between comics (which is pretty cool) but otherwise everything is just stretched out. I'm not sure how much more I can take but it's getting my kids to be bigger One Piece fans so I'll grin and bear it for now, until I can convince them to switch to the manga.
I told my wife how many episodes we had to go and she said I was crazy. My kids just want to get to Chopper and I told them we have like 20 episodes to go before they introduce them.
DanarchyReigns
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- Oct 25, 2017
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luffy vs doflamingo should let you know how much filler there is. they completely ruined the ending of it thanks to the sh*tty filler. luffy struggles punching though doflamingos attack while in the manga he completely powers through it and ends doflamingo. luffy's final attack was meant to show that his power had completely surpassed doflamingo but you wouldn't know it by the anime with how much he struggled.
I hated that so much. It was meant to be an overwhelming show of force, but Toei turned it into a beam struggle.
Same thing happened with Kaido's Thunder Bagua on Luffy. In the manga, it was meant to be swift and sudden, as Kaido just blitzes Luffy in the blink of an eye. The anime instead makes it a cross-counter where Luffy gets a King Kong Gun onto Kaido while he swings his club. The whole fight was a visual treat, but it just draaaaagged.
Makes me wonder how they'll handle Yamato's Thunder Bagua since it was purposely drawn to emulate their father.
smurfx
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I hated that so much. It was meant to be an overwhelming show of force, but Toei turned it into a beam struggle.
Same thing happened with Kaido's Thunder Bagua on Luffy. In the manga, it was meant to be swift and sudden, as Kaido just blitzes Luffy in the blink of an eye. The anime instead makes it a cross-counter where Luffy gets a King Kong Gun onto Kaido while he swings his club. The whole fight was a visual treat, but it just draaaaagged.
Makes me wonder how they'll handle Yamato's Thunder Bagua since it was purposely drawn to emulate their father.
since the doflamingo fight ive stopped regularly watching the anime. i pretty much just watch the big scenes. although i think i might start watching one pace since it cuts all the crap out.
Lunar Wolf
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Yeah but Bleach isn't popular like One Piece is. OP could weather it while Bleach could not.
- May 9, 2018
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I watched the anime up until thriller bark over a decade ago. The pacing on popular shonen series like One Piece, Naruto, and Dragon Ball is just miserable. Reading the manga is really the best way to go in these cases.
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DanarchyReigns
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For the record, Toei is not the reason why things are this bad. It's Fuji TV, the channel that airs it. They demand a new episode every week they can (assuming it's not pre-empted by something else), and Toei is stretching themselves thing to get it out. If it were up to them, they would totally do seasonal and allow for better animation and pacing.
People always recommend the anime for One Piece and I always shake my head. It's not good. If you have time to waste and don't mind padded out scenes and sh*t go ahead tho I guess.
The manga is so much better.
Anyone that recommends the anime is foolish, or somehow so dense they don't notice the problems with the pacing.
Ocarina_117
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- Oct 26, 2017
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This is one of my all time favourite series and I've been watching the anime for as long as I can remember.
I can never go to manga only with one piece because I've grown to love the voice actors and the music.
I really wish they'd go seasonal with the show to give it the adaptation it deserves. As it stands I just wait for One Pace to get some work done.
Haven't watched an episode since the end of the dressrosa arc. Will jump in again soon.
Runner
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- Nov 1, 2017
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The worst is the flashbacks - Naruto had this problem too, sometimes flashing back to stuff in the same episode - but Bleach had like 4 episodes in a row in which there was about to be a major confrontation in real time but most of the episode was flashbacks about the character- 'real time' went forward like, a minute in a half.
- Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah I caught up with One Piece (the manga) when the anime was at this exact episode. I decided to check it out since people hyped up the new Wano artstyle but that sumo sh*t was egregious. Can't recommend the anime really. Probably only One Pace and I've barely seen that
Holundrian
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- Oct 25, 2017
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Big reason why I stopped watching and started reading exclusively. The animation in the big scenes isn't even good enough to suffer through all the padding.
Last I regularly watched Marineford so years and years ago.
There was also a weird stretch of post Sabaody where I felt the general quality took a big nosedive, although the snippets I see of Wano seem like they found their form back.
Wait, isnt this 5 minute part just a few panels in the manga? I barely remember this guy. I dont even completely remember him existing.
- Oct 25, 2017
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This is why I didn't get why people were hyped over how pretty Wano was gonna be. Watching it is still gonna be agonizing, it's just a new coat of paint.
Because it's still a noticeable improvement from what we had before. Pacing is undoubtedly still a major issue, but it doesn't bug everyone to the same degree as everyone is different. That's why before the visual change happened, I kept saying up and down that if you can no longer tolerate the pacing, the anime will continue to be no longer for you.
Can't speak for those that exclusively only watch the anime (certainly wouldn't recommend that), but I don't mind watching it alongside the manga.
Tace
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This is why you read the manga, though nowadays more anime seem to be taking the seasonal approach which eliminates the pacing problems most times
Lady Bow
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- Nov 30, 2017
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Been the case since they changed the series director around ep 300. They changed again recently but the problem of being too close to the manga is still there, and they're still using the second director's solution of filler in canon eps rather than the first director's solution of filler arcs.
Jinbei using fishman karate at impel down will forever be the dirt worst
I don't know....I just finished the Albasta arc and the pacing/filler was f*cking abysmal. If it's gonna get worse than this then I have to drop the show lol.
RocketKiss
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- Oct 30, 2017
- 4,691
Read the manga then watch anime clips for cool segments you want to see animated sakuga style. And maybe listen to the OST while reading the manga Or just because, because it's an all time great soundtrack.
