| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 29, 2023 19:47:08 GMT -5 Post by goldenratio on Oct 29, 2023 19:47:08 GMT -5For those who are curious where the NYG stand in the projected draft order. With the loss today they are slated to pick 3 overall>>>> www.tankathon.com/nfl | "You gotta be a little delusional" Darius Slayton “It's counter productive, when you're rooting for a team and you don't want their players to succeed. It's just...It's... It's goofy." Carl Banks "If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude." Maya Angelou 'Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise, so I am changing myself.' Rumi |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 29, 2023 19:48:38 GMT -5 Post by calliesdad2019 on Oct 29, 2023 19:48:38 GMT -5This is a great year to have a high pick and need a qb And the giants absolutely do | |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 29, 2023 20:06:25 GMT -5 Post by ctnygfan1156 on Oct 29, 2023 20:06:25 GMT -5Way too early but you have to figure Maye or Williams goes 1 and maybe Harrison 2. At 3 I might trade down a bit, get an extra 3 or 4 and grab Pennix or Bo Bix in the top 10 ... | |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 29, 2023 20:07:16 GMT -5via mobile Post by leagued on Oct 29, 2023 20:07:16 GMT -5I don’t believe in rooting to lose, but knowing now that they 100% won’t make the playoffs, a part of me kind of hopes that they shut Jones down for the rest of the year (which will result in more losses). | Last Edit: Oct 29, 2023 20:07:57 GMT -5 by leagued |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 29, 2023 21:30:46 GMT -5 Post by AmaniToomerToeDrag on Oct 29, 2023 21:30:46 GMT -5Oct 29, 2023 19:48:38 GMT -5 calliesdad2019 said: This is a great year to have a high pick and need a qb And the giants absolutely do But lets be real though, even Tyrod Taylor was running for his life today. It's hard to imagine spending as many draft picks as we've had on OL talent and still having one of the worst OLs in the league. Yes, Andrew Thomas is out but everyone else isn't doing well. | |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 29, 2023 23:59:18 GMT -5via mobile Post by leagued on Oct 29, 2023 23:59:18 GMT -5They obviously need to upgrade the line, but in a draft where a number of top QB prospects are expected to come out you have to take one if you land a top 7 pick. It’s either QB or trade down and since they need a QB they must take one. It’s like 2018 all over again. Let’s not make the same mistake. | |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 5:07:08 GMT -5leagued likes this Post by calliesdad2019 on Oct 30, 2023 5:07:08 GMT -5Oct 29, 2023 23:59:18 GMT -5 leagued said: They obviously need to upgrade the line, but in a draft where a number of top QB prospects are expected to come out you have to take one if you land a top 7 pick. It’s either QB or trade down and since they need a QB they must take one. It’s like 2018 all over again. Let’s not make the same mistake. You don’t have to use a high first round pick to build a line . None of the giants 4 title teams did, you don’t need 5 all pros . They have an all pro lt , Schmitz should be solid , move neal to guard , sign or draft a rt in the second round or free agency . | |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 6:25:55 GMT -5 Post by leagued on Oct 30, 2023 6:25:55 GMT -5Oct 30, 2023 5:07:08 GMT -5 calliesdad2019 said: Oct 29, 2023 23:59:18 GMT -5 leagued said: They obviously need to upgrade the line, but in a draft where a number of top QB prospects are expected to come out you have to take one if you land a top 7 pick. It’s either QB or trade down and since they need a QB they must take one. It’s like 2018 all over again. Let’s not make the same mistake. You don’t have to use a high first round pick to build a line . None of the giants 4 title teams did, you don’t need 5 all pros . They have an all pro lt , Schmitz should be solid , move neal to guard , sign or draft a rt in the second round or free agency . We found out this season that Schoen did a poor job of building depth on the offensive line. For all we know, the starting five were solid but unfortunately Thomas got injured on the first series of the first game. Schmitz got injured in the second or third game and missed time. Neal has struggled again in his second season but has also missed time with an injury. Glowinski is subpar as a starter. Bredeson is solid but often injured. The linemen behind those starting five were so bad that the Giants had to bring back Tyre Phillips from the Eagles (though I said at the time that cutting him was a big mistake) and sign Justin Pugh off the couch. They've also brought in other castoffs from other teams' practice squads for depth. Joe Schoen, and the coaching staff, did a terrible job evaluating these guys and deciding on who made the roster.
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| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 6:44:13 GMT -5 Post by markc1914 on Oct 30, 2023 6:44:13 GMT -5If you're often injured, you're not good. If you can't play, you're not good. People keep raving about Thomas, he ain't helped us one bit this season. But them checks all cleared.
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| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 6:58:26 GMT -5 Post by markc1914 on Oct 30, 2023 6:58:26 GMT -5Oct 30, 2023 6:50:05 GMT -5 giantnut said: Giants will win just enough games to get into terrible draft position and miss out on the best possible players as usual. That's my exact worst fear. We'll win just enough games to miss on an impact player and be stuck in the mud of mediocrity for years to come. There's no point in winning 6-7 games. None. This team is a failure, and needs to be built from the ground up, especially on offense. This offense has NOTHING. No playmakers, no QB, no OL. Don't tell me LT, because he ain't done nothing all year. We have NOTHING. | I post as good as the Giants play....simple as that. |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 7:42:47 GMT -5 Post by stonedinvestor on Oct 30, 2023 7:42:47 GMT -5Oct 30, 2023 6:25:55 GMT -5 leagued said: Oct 30, 2023 5:07:08 GMT -5 calliesdad2019 said: You don’t have to use a high first round pick to build a line . None of the giants 4 title teams did, you don’t need 5 all pros . They have an all pro lt , Schmitz should be solid , move neal to guard , sign or draft a rt in the second round or free agency . We found out this season that Schoen did a poor job of building depth on the offensive line. For all we know, the starting five were solid but unfortunately Thomas got injured on the first series of the first game. Schmitz got injured in the second or third game and missed time. Neal has struggled again in his second season but has also missed time with an injury. Glowinski is subpar as a starter. Bredeson is solid but often injured. The linemen behind those starting five were so bad that the Giants had to bring back Tyre Phillips from the Eagles (though I said at the time that cutting him was a big mistake) and sign Justin Pugh off the couch. They've also brought in other castoffs from other teams' practice squads for depth. Joe Schoen, and the coaching staff, did a terrible job evaluating these guys and deciding on who made the roster. Very much so. And Schoen and Jones have us a forced seller now: The Giants have a league-low $947,513 in salary cap space as of Thursday, according to the NFLPA. The Giants entered the season with $3.8 million in cap space after restructuring the contracts of defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence, linebacker Bobby Okereke and kicker Graham Gano. But the cost of replacements for players on injured reserve — the Giants have placed five players on IR in the past two weeks — has eaten into that cushion. Unless the Giants make a trade to create cap savings by Tuesday’s deadline, another contract restructure will be inevitable to make it through the season. (Adoree’) Jackson and defensive tackle Leonard Williams are the obvious sources of potential cap relief, either via trade or restructure. Q- HOW CAN YOU BE THE WORST TEAM AND THE TEAM WITH THE MOST CAP TROUBLE AND LEAST AMOUNT OF CASH. RIDDLE ME THAT.... | |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 7:49:21 GMT -5 Post by markc1914 on Oct 30, 2023 7:49:21 GMT -5Oct 30, 2023 7:42:47 GMT -5 stonedinvestor said: Oct 30, 2023 6:25:55 GMT -5 leagued said: We found out this season that Schoen did a poor job of building depth on the offensive line. For all we know, the starting five were solid but unfortunately Thomas got injured on the first series of the first game. Schmitz got injured in the second or third game and missed time. Neal has struggled again in his second season but has also missed time with an injury. Glowinski is subpar as a starter. Bredeson is solid but often injured. The linemen behind those starting five were so bad that the Giants had to bring back Tyre Phillips from the Eagles (though I said at the time that cutting him was a big mistake) and sign Justin Pugh off the couch. They've also brought in other castoffs from other teams' practice squads for depth. Joe Schoen, and the coaching staff, did a terrible job evaluating these guys and deciding on who made the roster. Very much so. And Schoen and Jones have us a forced seller now: The Giants have a league-low $947,513 in salary cap space as of Thursday, according to the NFLPA. The Giants entered the season with $3.8 million in cap space after restructuring the contracts of defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence, linebacker Bobby Okereke and kicker Graham Gano. But the cost of replacements for players on injured reserve — the Giants have placed five players on IR in the past two weeks — has eaten into that cushion. Unless the Giants make a trade to create cap savings by Tuesday’s deadline, another contract restructure will be inevitable to make it through the season. (Adoree’) Jackson and defensive tackle Leonard Williams are the obvious sources of potential cap relief, either via trade or restructure. Q- HOW CAN YOU BE THE WORST TEAM AND THE TEAM WITH THE MOST CAP TROUBLE AND LEAST AMOUNT OF CASH. RIDDLE ME THAT.... Piss poor ownership. But you can't fire them. | I post as good as the Giants play....simple as that. |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 9:03:55 GMT -5expatriot likes this Post by markc1914 on Oct 30, 2023 9:03:55 GMT -5Root for Arizona, Chicago, New England every week. | I post as good as the Giants play....simple as that. |
| | Tankathon (for 2024 NFL draft)Oct 30, 2023 19:06:13 GMT -5goldenratio likes this Post by jeffhostetlerfan on Oct 30, 2023 19:06:13 GMT -5Your First Round QBs in recent drafts: 2018:Mayfield, Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, L Jax...............good draft.....with the exception of the Rosen fiasco 2019: K Murray, D Jones, D Haskins, (Drew Lock in the 2nd round)..............meh 2020: Burrow, Tua, J Herbert, J Love (J Hurts in the 2nd round....dammit) - This draft was a home run for QBs with the exception of Love 2021: T Lawrence, Z Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones..........meh 2022: no 1st round QBs....... 2023: Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Anthony Richardson.......obviously early to tell. Clearly, every year is its own draft and talent can vary. People always are enamored with the shiny new toys. This Giants roster...........this offseason, the OL somehow needs to be a priority. I mean......nobody has figured it out the last 10 years, so it's hard to get excited about our Personnel Team figuring it out......but that's our problem. Yeah.....QB is a problem too......but you will have a QB problem if you have a persistent OL problem. This is one of those drafts I wouldn't be against trading our Top 5 pick if we get it. But we are a ways from there.......we'll see how all of this shakes out. | |
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ShoutboxWelcome to the Big Blue Wrecking Crew chat! jdub19: @blu4everli Are you being serious in your contention that the Giants should have drafted Becton over Thomas or are you just trolling? Asking for a friend...Mar 25, 2024 0:39:26 GMT -5 sufferinggmenfan: your telling me, we sucked last year and now we will suck even more. 2 crappy oline men added is all we have to show for letting the best safety and a top RB walk. Saquon will rush for 1500 yard behind a real line. Sickening how bad year after year we are.Mar 11, 2024 18:24:05 GMT -5 ordinaryG: ELO, Showdown… love it Dec 31, 2023 13:15:59 GMT -5 Carson53: Should have stayed up to watch the second half of Colorado - Stanford last nightOct 14, 2023 13:34:39 GMT -5 wahl35: Eric posted this on BBI earlier ....Aug 24, 2023 15:59:14 GMT -5 ctyankeeinlittlerock: Excellent summary here.... Dec 12, 2022 14:53:35 GMT -5 56801steve: the WR Wilson looks like a total stud and A.Lucas is better than Neal.The Giants could have walked away with both of them, Wilson in round 1 (instead of Neal) and Lucas in round 3. That would have been awesome drafting but Schoen blew it. Dec 11, 2022 16:27:09 GMT -5 ncgiantsfan: Jones is way better than Taylor and any notion that the latter will be the started next year is flawed at best.Dec 9, 2022 7:07:20 GMT -5 |